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addyhoch10's picture
addyhoch10
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i like it! looks scary, especially this one...

but why are there always dark-skinned people dressing as white people?

the_ashlands's picture
the_ashlands
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because otherwise the contrast would be so low that it would just look like somebody with really eff'ed up eyes...

great little idea here...playing to the notion of 'what would it be like to be ____' the simple concept works great for techy products that may be daunting to those who are unfamiliar with the product..therefore casting a great 'ease of use' quality on the spot.

addyhoch10's picture
addyhoch10
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even though i risk to sound cocky: nothing's impossible with the right art direction.

i just think a pale, blue-eyed fella with blonde eyelashes in a mike-tyson-kinda "costume" would look great, give the campaign a little je ne sais quoi and would go perfectly with ps2. just a thought.

the_ashlands's picture
the_ashlands
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never said it was impossible...its just has a lot more pop this way is all.

i agree tho...with the right art direction (not to say that the art direction here is bad) im sure they could have mixed it up a little.

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salamandos
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it could and should have been done the way you describe it, addy

the_ashlands's picture
the_ashlands
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the way addy described it was just the reverse of what they did, but its still the same. most of these, have dark skin under white skin. your just saying they should have done white skin under dark. still the same 'pop factor' just reversed. actually, if you look closely...the dog spot has light toned skin under the dark dog hair.

so why again could and should it have been done the 'addy' way....no offense, just trying to figure out if im understanding you correctly here.

its all the same game..

salamandos's picture
salamandos
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I refer to >nothing's impossible with the right art direction.

Eyes can look quite different, for example they could have combined the eyes of a very old person with the kid (some visible small blood veins) or what about a female player with colored make-up on her lids inside the cleric.
Also I think a nice effect could be to make the eyes of the person inside/the player a little bit smaller or bigger than the real eye size of the "worn person" - his body would appear more like a costume.

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the_ashlands
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ooooh..so "it could and should have been done the way you describe it, addy" was not in reference to "i just think a pale, blue-eyed fella with blonde eyelashes in a mike-tyson-kinda "costume" would look great"??

i guess you comment just doesnt make sense...because "nothing's impossible with the right art direction"...isnt a description.

also, they did make the 'costumes' eye hole larger than the 'actual' eye that we see.

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salamandos
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>ooooh..so "it could and should have been done the way you describe it, addy" was not in reference to "i >just think a pale, blue-eyed fella with blonde eyelashes in a mike-tyson-kinda "costume" would look >great"??

not exactly, yes. I thought the idea could have profitted of more experimenting - in art direction and with different role models.

>i guess you comment just doesnt make sense...

haha - good one

>because "nothing's impossible with the right art >direction"...isnt a description

but it suggests that things can be improved, see above.

>also, they did make the 'costumes' eye hole larger than the 'actual' eye that we see.

not enough - also they did not play with the effect of a costume which is not completely fitting - so that it would look like a latex mask or such.

addyhoch10's picture
addyhoch10
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is this my imagination or do you disagree with me on principle ash...?
neither meant to offend you nor i claimed to reinvent the wheel.

the_ashlands's picture
the_ashlands
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not at all...your just not making much sense these past couple of days. if you go back thru your previous comments youll find that we're generally in agreement.

sorry if i offended you im just trying to make my point in the crit.

salamandos's picture
salamandos
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>your just not making much sense these past couple of days.

ever thought of the possibility that you don't make sense yourself?

the_ashlands's picture
the_ashlands
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yeah.

show me things ive said that dont make sense to you.

salamandos's picture
salamandos
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>because otherwise the contrast would be so low that it would just look like somebody with really eff'ed up eyes...

I've already mentionned possible solutions to ensure that the idea would work without that "black/white"-contrast.

the_ashlands's picture
the_ashlands
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that comment was in regards to this one...'but why are there always dark-skinned people dressing as white people?' i didnt mean to come off sounding like i believe that they have to be black under white...i was just talkin out loud.

bloody eyeball veins to depict an old person? i think that would probably be misconstrued as somebody who's playin video games absolutely rippin high...probably not the best move, albeit a more realistic portrayal!

although i do agree with your make-up comment.

i really dont mean to sound argumentative...maybe its the ambiguity of online chatting....? cheers

salamandos's picture
salamandos
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>bloody eyeball veins to depict an old person? i think that would probably be misconstrued as somebody >who's playin video games absolutely rippin high...probably not the best move, albeit a more realistic >portrayal!

haha, legitimate demur - but maybe it would support the creepiness of the ad?

>i really dont mean to sound argumentative...maybe its the ambiguity of online chatting....? cheers

could be, cheers from my side too

addyhoch10's picture
addyhoch10
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"your just not making much sense these past couple of days."

ok, it's your opinion, i repect it. would be nice if you were able to respect mine or other people's as well.

back to the ads!

the_ashlands's picture
the_ashlands
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sorry man..didnt feel i was being disrespectful.

kc_brock's picture
kc_brock
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holy crap this is creepy!

rd

MILIKO's picture
MILIKO
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Muy buen trabajo. (NICE!)

kre8's picture
kre8
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this would have been good.
if the exact campaign hadnt already been done. for the same client.

marco's picture
marco
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Hey Kre8 yah i have seen the white face ad before from this campiagn, it was on the cover of campaign brief Asia about 2- 3 years ago.

You sure you not thinking of it?

This campaign is pretty old, must of resurfaced!

kre8's picture
kre8
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hey marco, im not sure.
it was done by tbwa singapore.
maybe it has re-surfaced...
ivan?

kre8's picture
kre8
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ah, just checked.
yeah, i think its the same one.
my bad.

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Boony wants a beer
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Why a baby, a dog, a priest and some freaky white face thing? Shouldn't the "somebody else" be who you become when the play the games? A soldier, a rally driver, a skater, a ninja, etc? Some other PS stuff is along those lines and I think is heaps better.

slim's picture
slim
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Boony, know what you're saying. But I think that's taking it too literally, and the PS brand has always had a surreal edge to it. So I think dogs, priests, babies are in this case more appropriate than fighters, soldiers and sports stars.

Anyway, this is an old campaign. At least 2 years...

Would drop 'be somebody else' myself.

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Boony wants a beer
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Yep the line was my other issue with the campaign but I didn't want to sound like too much of a whiny little bitch. I may be wrong, but I can't remember ever seeing a PS2 branding ad with a positioning line on it. That was always left up to interpretation.

Did this campaign ever win anything? I never saw it in any of the books. I guess when your PS2 stuff is up against TBWA Paris' it's always going to be tough.

CDart's picture
CDart
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I think, "Be brutal" "Be Fiercest or wilder" better than "Be somebody else"

Desi's picture
Desi
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All the PS2 ads are becoming quite cliched. Even a student would do these kind of stuff. Let's see something fresh PS2.

slim's picture
slim
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I couldn't agree less. PS2 ads are about as sophisticated as advertising gets. It was, what, 2 years ago that Paris won the Grand Prix with some PS2 ads, and every year I can remember PS2 work has been awarded at the highest level. Which top award shows have you been judging exactly, desi?

kre8's picture
kre8
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i think you raise an interesting point about the judging there, slim.
desi?

popdistortion's picture
popdistortion
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Interesting but not quite on the same level as previous PS ads.

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