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mara's picture
mara
Activity Score 64

I agree with the big name agency thingy being posted here. The spoof on "NIKE" print ad i did with Mikael Teo (who did the risk campaign with Din and Graham Kelly from Saatchi) got rejected by Ivan because we submitted as our personal work. Was told by Ivan it wasn't up to par. Guess what? It was one of the winner at good 50 x 70.

http://good50x70.org/2008/imagecontest/image/13.jpg

So i agree that 2 kinds of works get posted here. The ones by the big agencies and the ones who suck up to Ivan (which account for most of the shitty ones). If Ivan chooses to elude the enquiry by being elusive and philosophical in his answer, please read my philosophical dissertation at,

http://ww1.chonglai.com/matrix.htm

And i hope you get past my seventh paragraph

braindrain's picture
braindrain
Activity Score 240

Huh? I have no idea what this means.

drizae's picture
drizae
Activity Score 503

Are they meant to be a scratchie cards? Ivan, please help! :)

Fail Harder.

addyhoch10's picture
addyhoch10
Activity Score 2592

it should be "scratch here" i think (grattez ici)

i don't get it anyway.

Boony wants a beer's picture
Boony wants a beer
Activity Score 380

Well. Now I know for a fact that work gets posted on here because of where its come from.

This is total and utter shite and I actually think Y&R might be taking the piss here. I reckon Emmanuel has caught on and said over a couple of lagers,

"Hey Vincent, I bet we can make an ad about absolutely nothing and so long as we put that it's from Young and Rubicam, we can get it posted".

"You just might be onto something there, Emmanuel" was Vincent's reply

What a load of garbage. Of course, I may have got those name's around the wrong way. Obviously it may well have been Vincent's idea.

And where's Heubert?

ivan's picture
ivan

That's really not true. You'd be surprised what big names are rejected regardless of their reputation. And there are plenty of work posted without any agency credentials, even student work.

I happen to like this campaign, it is not going to get the grand prix, but it is an interesting new angle.

Boony wants a beer's picture
Boony wants a beer
Activity Score 380

And judging by the first batch of comments on this page, everyone certainly seems to agree with you.

I really struggle to believe had a small agency done this work that it would have been given the time of day.

ivan's picture
ivan

I have to agree that brands work subconsciously even if consciously one tries to be objective.

mara's picture
mara
Activity Score 64

I agree with the big name agency thingy being posted here. The spoof on "NIKE" print ad i did with Mikael Teo (who did the risk campaign with Din and Graham Kelly from Saatchi) got rejected by Ivan because we submitted as our personal work. Was told by Ivan it wasn't up to par. Guess what? It was one of the winner at good 50 x 70.

http://good50x70.org/2008/imagecontest/image/13.jpg

So i agree that 2 kinds of works get posted here. The ones by the big agencies and the ones who suck up to Ivan (which account for most of the shitty ones). If Ivan chooses to elude the enquiry by being elusive and philosophical in his answer, please read my philosophical dissertation at,

http://ww1.chonglai.com/matrix.htm

And i hope you get past my seventh paragraph

jennywhx's picture
jennywhx
Activity Score 1142

haha, Boony your comment's much interesting than the ad itself :P
ivan, can you explain to me what's this ad about? sorry :P wish to learn more.

http://jennywhx.blogspot.com jwhx:Visionary

hang-the-dj's picture
hang-the-dj
Activity Score 1262

Boony, you've finally said what everyone who isn't from a 'big name' agency has been thinking the whole time. There is some absolute shit on this site that is only here for one reason - where it came from.

Ivan, how about we some 'great' work regardless of how big or small the agency is?

ivan's picture
ivan

I'll try my best..

ivanlim's picture
ivanlim
Activity Score 262

now i know you're talking shite.
ivan doesn't just post work from the big boys.
ever thought that your idea probably just wasn't up to par?

yeah, sometimes ivan's got his momentary lapse of good judgement, but he's been doing a bloody ace job, posting stuff for us to check out.

if you don't like it, well,... just don't come on.

and seriously.
taking the excuse that favouritism happens here?
that's just a pathetic excuse.

Boony wants a beer's picture
Boony wants a beer
Activity Score 380

Don't be so naive.

This site is dominated by work from big name agencies on big name brands, with a lot of it well below average. Admittedly, there is some great work posted on here, but more and more garbage from the likes of JWT, Grey, DDB and Lowe seems to be appearing. This latest one just takes the cake.

And who said I was making excuses?

Boony wants a beer's picture
Boony wants a beer
Activity Score 380

Oh and before I get jumped on for singling out those agencies, there's plenty from all the big names, they just happened to be the first four I came across when I quickly went through the first few site pages.

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hang-the-dj
Activity Score 1262

Sorry buddy, but I come here because there is alot of good work here, I just agree with Boony that there is an overwhelming amount of pretty crap ads from big name agencies as well as the good stuff here - so I will still 'come on' whenever I like.

I appreciate Ivan's hard work, but it's disappointing to see so many try-hard pieces of work with 'name' logos in the bottom right corner.

jennywhx's picture
jennywhx
Activity Score 1142

so does it mean that they need management talent to manage the people who're like the scraped ticket above, and they need creative talent to make their ad more interesting? so what's about the...."knife" beside (the next ad)?

http://jennywhx.blogspot.com jwhx:Visionary

hang-the-dj's picture
hang-the-dj
Activity Score 1262

Oh Jenny, it seems you have a few fans here (like Desi) but I'm afraid you need to think a little bit harder about the ads before expose your, um, 'conceptual weaknesses'.

The ad is called 'pearl'. Does that help?

jennywhx's picture
jennywhx
Activity Score 1142

hi dj, i do not need fans, i come here to learn, not for fan :) thanks to your comment btw.

http://jennywhx.blogspot.com jwhx:Visionary

Vince's picture
Vince
Activity Score 4

See comment on the first ad...

Shingo's picture
Shingo
Activity Score 408

i cant understand =)

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