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Brainsugar's picture
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Corcovado my lord! Thank you for existing! Without you no ads are possible! thank you my lord! oh my lord!

( you can also sing it on a cool music)

salamandos's picture
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Brainsugar's picture
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I hope that Nm Jiang or Frank Chen are Marquis, the guy who posted his non-finish work here!!!!

By the way, I don't understand why posting student work on the web!?
When you only talk about your work in your own agency, it can be stolen. Imagine if you talk about it to the entire advertising world...
( Yes Ivan, your site is wellknown;-) By the way do you have stats about the countries visiting your site?)

salamandos's picture
1947 pencils

Yes, "ouch!". No, those two guys are not "Marquis".

Slashh's picture
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Exactly! And the "theives" always seems to be in China, Asia or somewhere in the far east. Sup with that? I don't understand why Ivan doesn't allow posters to remove their work as soon as they feel they have enough comments instead of leaving it there forever waiting/begging for it to be stolen.

FrankChen's picture
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I signed up my account here just to reply this comment "thieves".
Yes this site may be world famous, but I didn't have the time and energy to browse the whole archive, because I know it only recently. The work presented here is a test whether the visual can convey itself. Looks like it works a bit too much and brings back some insult from a bunch of ppl who think a thief will steal something and sell it at the same place.
Thanks anyway, for now I am sure that the concept of huge amount of hot water creates steam covering landmarks is new and unused, even to the "original" in some ppl's eyes.

ivan's picture

At the same time by posting your idea in the forum you claim it. There is a time stamp on each post. You can easily tell what came first.

Here are the stats of the last 30 days. These numbers are visits, not page loads. Page loads are about 20x these numbers roughly:
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Slashh's picture
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Edison didn't invent the light bulb but he certainly gets all the credit for it. In other words, a time stamp is nice but little consolation once the idea is stolen and produced by someone else. Especially when it's produced on the other side of the world. Doing what we can to prevent the theft from happening in the first place would be more preferable. Ads in the forum usually get the vast majority of comments they're going to get within two or three days. Certainly within a week or two. You could still apply the time stamp in conjunction with allowing the poster (or you) to remove the ad when he/she wants to so that the unproduced idea is not hanging out there day after day, year after year for the taking. It's your site and of course you can do as you please, but since you already remove ads at the request of the agency and or client, why not do the same for the average Joe? Just wondering.

salamandos's picture
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I guess he would remove it if being asked by the poster.
Perhaps a possibility to delete own topics when being logged in would be helpful.

ivan's picture

Yes, there is no problem with removing forum topics. You can edit your own forum posts. You can delete the files from it too. I removed whole topics for users upon request as well many times.

Ivan Raszl, admin of AotW

Brainsugar's picture
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Thanks for the stats! And hello to Tajikistan!!

FrankChen's picture
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[Submitted by Slashh on Wed, 2007-07-25 10:08.
Exactly! And the "theives" always seems to be in China, Asia or somewhere in the far east.]

Where did you steal this stupid remark? For I'm sure this kind of prejudice cannot be invented by you.

The truth hurts's picture
The truth hurts

Don't blame the messenger Frank. Clean up your act there in China. The vast majority of controvercies I see and hear about concerting this kind of idea "stealing" always seems to inlcude your part of the world. It's a real concern. Deal with it.

FrankChen's picture
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Which part of world seems to you not included in the "stealing"? The real concern is if you charge someone of stealing pls make sure your judgment is out of fair consideration and not from regional discrimination.

sometimes's picture

accusations like these are really uncalled-for.. frankly, there's always bad hats in any part of the world. we're all in this ad world aiming to do great ads, hopfully original ads?
like the ancient saying "great minds think alike.."
we've all experienced coming up with similar thoughts that's published somewhere else at certain point of time, esp. in this industry?

peace peeps..

who's your daddy's picture
who's your daddy

Nobody here said that China was the only place that steals ideas. Other places around the globe have certainly done so. What WAS said, was that China seems to always be involved in questionable activity. So sorry pal, I agree with those who have noticed that too much of the so-called stealing and coincidences involve China. And now that I think about it, maybe it is cultural. They seem to have a lack of respect for "ownership" and the rights that go along with it, that goes well beyond the world of advertising.

Great minds may think a like, but it's the lazy brain that will steal your idea.

alausa's picture
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Interesting debate.

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