Big Apple Coalition of Reason: Subway ad

A million New Yorkers are good without God? Are you?

These words are part of a coordinated multi-organizational advertising campaign designed to raise awareness about people who don't believe in a god. The prominent ads will go up Monday, October 26, in a dozen Manhattan subway stations. Placed by Big Apple CoR, the New York City Coalition of Reason, with funding from the United Coalition of Reason, the ads feature an image of blue sky and clouds with the words superimposed over.

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This is great. I live in New York and can't wait to see them go up. With all the religious hysteria being promulgated in the media, popular culture and current events these days, messages like this are a breath of fresh air.

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what good does this print ad do for the world?

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i think it could offend those who believe in a god.

they say the share common views with believers and non-believers. doesn't this ad put away believers?

they want to unite -- here's what they say:

Yet while our collective viewpoint is secular, we share commonalities with many belief systems -- including religious. We are committed to a more compassionate world; we are working for a more reasonable citizenry and a higher level of discourse; we are striving to increase the quality of life for all; and we find fellowship an integral part of the human condition.

if they want to unite, why put off one side of the coin?

i think this campaign has the potential to get some people angry, which goes against their message of fellowship and compassion.

i think it could have been done a lot better. since non-believers of a god rely on intellect, i think the creative team should have explored that route a little more.

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very well said. good point raised with only focus on the effectiveness of the advertisment

shahid

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Forget for a moment whether or not you "believe in God"… the ad isn't very good.

Sad, because there's a lot you could do w/ this.

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"I love some things, and don't love some other things."

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To all friendly atheists & agnostics.,

The following references will provide positive information to what I have stated below; 'The Holographic Universe - it's an illusion'. (You Tube), 'Beige the Colour of the Universe' (abc.net.au/science/news/stories), Scientific America (August, 2003) - 'Holographic Universe' and fractal crystal description @crystalinks.com/fractals.
Can the atheists or agnostics prove atheism? Can they satisfactorily explain why time remains stable or why there are uniform, 'universal laws of physics' - such as, the speed of light or the makeup of elements?
They just take for granted everything works by mere chance ... dreamers!

Kind regards

John Berbatis 21 October, 2009

Logical proof of Monotheism & Pantheism.

Syllogisms that I submitted in 1998, which were recognized by the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights - Dr Mary Robinson and the Hon. Justice Michael D. Kirby AC CMG of the High Court of Australia.

Time must exist before matter can be created, and only an animate entity can conceive of space-time. Time must be a stabilized and uniform condition before matter can form, thus Monotheism is a Truth.

The Universe consists of space-time; which is functionally active and growing but remains stable. These combined characteristics are indicative of an animate entity only, thus Pantheism is a fact.
As a consequence, all mortals' behaviour and attitudes become conspicuous by our Creator.

Reality is the dream of a Universal sentient being. Sensations of all mortals are merely light flashes within elongated fractal crystals, flowing in a white mist which is time itself; ensconced within a beige coloured and velvet textured Pearl, that is, a holographic Universe.

If all electrical particles were in different time zones - matter would not form, thus time is a controlled electromagnetic radiation (energy) E = mc2.

To be perfect - one must know the past, present and future, there is only one, the one that created Time.

John Berbatis Perth, Australia

johnberbatisau@hotmail.com 61 0422621382

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The age of the universe is predicted in rank of billions an billions of solar years. These figures are unimaginative, as such, they are just numbers without meaning. Time has no meaning without us.

Time is our feeling towards the movement and transition of matter. It is made by matter. It's absurd to even try to identify time without matter. The feeling of monotone that matter leaves on us has inspired us to create time scales. Time exists only inside the sane organisms. Time in an unconscious universe is a myth resulted of our lame thinking.

Growth and stability are not characteristics monopolized by animate entities. It is the other way around. These characteristics are the universe grants to animate entities.

Atheists don't need to prove atheism because atheism is not a claim. It is just a rejection of an unproven claim of super supreme. Theists should prove their theism.

Cheers

PS: Not good concept though very vital objective :-/

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Sure, if you accept these premises are true, you can draw such a conclusion. But to think that in 2009 we have all the answers to the intricacies of existence would be nothing less than ignorant, therefore making your logic flawed. The only finite answer is that no one actually has an answer.

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A few points wrong with this ad:

Just because a million others are 'okay' without God, it doesn't mean it is a right thing to be/do. That's weak reasoning not based on facts.

Like blueturtles mentioned... doesn't this go against their unity call? It becomes more obvious if you note the capital G in 'God'.

The word 'good' might be a deliberate pun, meaning both 'okay' or in the spiritual sense of 'goodness' - which is again open for argument as there is no standard which atheists abide to when defining what is 'good'.

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if your aim for this campaign is to raise awareness about the existence of god so i could become a believer, sorry to say you missed the mark. if i'm sort of a lapsed believer, this ad doesn't do enough to remind me why i need god. if i'm an atheist, this ad does offers nothing to challenge my belief. it's not inspiring, it doesn't provoke my curiosity with some obscure facts that hint at god's handiwork, and worst of all, it's not even good advertising for the greatest and most storied brand in the history of the world - God. and yes, i'm a lapsed believer.

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i hate this add it's already raising a conflict. it's bad and offensive.

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what is the campaign trying to say? is it about atheism? is it about religious tolerance? vague in its message, vapid in its execution. the more i look at it, the more annoying it gets. total failure

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It's pretty clear to me but of course I'm agnostic. The ad has a double meaning. It's saying there are a million people that are "good" (as in well behaved) without having to believe in God. It's also saying "good" as in not finding it necessary to believe in a god. Quite often it's the religious fanatics that aren't even living up to the Christian values they criticize others for not having.

Basic summary: You can be a good person without being religious.

I like.

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where is the creativity here? it's a informative poster without any spark of creativity.

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Are we discussing the ad or the message it is sending?????

Ad is nothing special.

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Wha, Wha, Wha, heaven forbid Christians have to see ANY marketing that doesn't confirm their personal view of the world. Believe it or not, one of the fastest growing minorities are non-believers. People are becoming far more educated these days and realizing perhaps they don't have all the answers they thought they did. It's not "offensive," it's appealing to a demographic that isn't reached nearly enough.

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WOW. Way to turn ADSOFTHEWORLD into a religious debate site. Keep this crap off the site... bad ad on so many levels.

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So one million are good without god... that means the other 7.3 mil are good with him. Who says religion is dying?

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Well, I`m a pastor of a church that believes the Bible is from God and that faith in Jesus is what makes us "OK", so I guess I`m the "enemy."

But it seems that our atheist friends have discovered evangelism, so maybe you`re becoming a bit more like us!

However, it should be pointed out that if the "million New Yorkers" is based upon the recent religious preference poll indicating that 15% had no religious preference, that your assumptions may be invalid.
"No preference" means no preference. It does not mean atheism. Actually people could attend church regularly and believe in God and still put down "no preference" in a survey simply because they didn`t want to label themselves, as many people today do not.

God bless,
Marc McGrath
Fair Lawn Bible Church, NJ

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this is only raising conflict and controversial debate, playing on big things such as "god" as a term is not easy and fun if its not played well.
this piece here doesnt have anything to do with positive thinking, even if its questioning the existence of god, there is not creativity at all.

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I'm your target--an non-believer who might be interested in this organization--but I didn't get the double entendre at first, I thought it was an ad for a church. I think instead of "are you?" it could have said "you may be one of them," or something like that. Also, the visual could have somehow conveyed a non-believer doing good--the clouds and sky don't convey much, except for making me think (again) it's a church ad.

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Weak, very weak. No matters if the message is right or not, this ad is not creative at all.

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It makes you think WHY people try to be good - because an imaginary big brother watches (and loves/threatens) them, or just for goodness sake itself. So, how about you?

That's what it's asking and that's fairly new. So, that's what it "adds to the world"!

Brilliant to me.

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thats because you aren't brilliant at all.

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I think the ad did its job: it got people talking.

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Really,

I doubt that agnostic people respect this message. You cannot define an entire body of agnostic because people may not choose a particular faith. Does that mean their faithless, or prescribe that they don't believe in something? including even a potential deity? I don't think you can group them as good with god. Maybe they're looking for their answers to be defined by a lifetime of events, and they may or may not believe in some form of higher order, this ad is stating what an entire group thinks, and how that's working out for them. And I find that obnoxious. And a bit self righteous and the opposite of free-thinking.

Anyways I don't respect the message, or their copywriting and the art direction is lame. The only reason this is in our face is because of their ad buy.

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well fellas, it may be appropriate to say even those who don't believe in god, believe in advertising:-)

well, i see some people cursing the effort. that's not the thing this ad deserves.

btw, the ad may create controversy and hurt the feelings of the the believers. i presume that's not the objective of this campaign. if 'no', then please rework. the first principle on which you need to work is universal brotherhood (which comes from respect and understanding of others) if you want to make an intergroup (i can't say interfaith:-) )dialogue.

shahid

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...Is that Garamond?

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Yawn...

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