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Conceptual-eyes's picture
Conceptual-eyes
1475 pencils

Pixelbomb1, Your work appears to be design led...it's of a high standard but with very little creativity. This forum is used for advertising critique if we wanted to see work like this this we could open the nearest generic magazine or brochure.

Sorry but people here want to see idea driven work. Right?

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

Trust me if i were to do this ads it would be different. But the people I work for PAYS ME. And I make them HAPPY. the bottom line is... I do my job with thier liking. I get Paid and they are happy. If I argue with them It will be an ad that will never finish. I worked with art directors before that are so picky.

I cannot live under pressures from patrons, let alone paint.
-- Michelangelo, quoted in Vasari's Lives of the Artists

There's a big difference. As for clients that don't know the difference between quality creative and junk -- poor them! You get what you pay for, even in advertising. At some point, you throw your hands up, shake it off and move on.

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

Boony wants a beer's picture
Boony wants a beer
380 pencils

People actually pay you for that rubbish?

ivan's picture
ivan

Right, the design is good, but the idea is missing!

Ivan Raszl, admin of AotW

fredsters_s's picture
fredsters_s
18 pencils

the design for both ads is poor - look at the spacing (or lack of) for the different elements in the steak ad. apart from that, I like the steak ad idea.

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

We'll Thank You.

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

weighter's picture
weighter
744 pencils

Well, from a design perspective, which is all these can really be graded by...

The balance and use of positive and negative space needs much more attention.
The visual heirarchy of the ads are muddled and confusing for the most part.
The type has had very little attention to some very important details.

but, like you said, the client probably doesn't know the difference anyways.

MCP's picture
MCP
231 pencils

Mate,
what we're striving for here is to give the client what they NEED not what they want - that's easy, you're just another supplier then. If you offer them great creative work - that yes, is hard but rewarding - then you become part of his business and he cannot just fire you and get some other lazy freelancer to do his work...
And if you're not that proud of it, why did you post it?

whitespace's picture
whitespace
1953 pencils

pbomb: Assuming you are the client as well as the agency, how would you have tackled that brief?

Post *that* result, then there'll be more to talk about.

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

1. Client: I will tell them my idea and tell them that it's due today before lunch. needs be to uploaded to a
magazine. BTW I have a little budget on this project. (enough to pay rent)

2. Agency: Listen to the client, do what what they want done, GET PAID and MOVE ON. (NEXT.........)

It's sound sellout, but you have to do what you need to survive. I know designers are dime a dozen especially here in the Los Angeles area. It's dog eat dog world out there. Problem is, some creative people think that his/her work is better than the other person. So what, bottom line, who got paid and made the client happy. They will come back again. customer service.

http://www.gecko9.com/whenigrowup.html

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

MCP's picture
MCP
231 pencils

Yup, no arguing with that, but what about when someone cheaper comes along - you're not a business partner, not adding any creative value, so you're not very important. And is it really customer service when you're only giving them the bare minimum for their money?

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

I say let it go. You spend your time making corrections making a masterpiece for what. I am sorry it is a harsh reality at the end of the day that creation of yours will become a recycled whatever it is. We try to please everybody that's the creative side of creative people, but at the end it's just business. TIME = MONEY.
WASTE (TIME) = WASTE (MONEY)

Trust me. I want to do a KICKASS job but, you have to weigh the situation. Is it worth it?
If the pay is golden then sure I have your undivided attention.

I worked with an art director dang he's picky. add 2% magenta to the lettuce. I said DUDE we've been here for 3 hours, this is going be a blow-in in a sunday paper no parents gonna look at it and say wow this lettuce should been more greener. C'mon 65lpi it's gonna be off-registration when they sheet feed it anyways and 2 seconds later? RECYLING BIN. Now you're here. Tommorow you're gone. ENJOY LIFE, DRINK COKE.

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

MCP's picture
MCP
231 pencils

Ok, cool, but why did you post the ads on a site that is devoted to the appreciation and strive for creativity then?

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

because I can. And it's a FREE WORLD. we'll in some country it's not.

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

Klaus's picture
Klaus
20 pencils

No one wants to see a ugly gallon. If this is 100% orange juice show how it taste in a creative kind. whats’s in for me?

Excuse my english. But it’s better than my chinese. ;-)

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

hey klauss where is the misses?
btw check the link below I squeezed the OJ into the jug.

http://adsoftheworld.com/files/Tomasz_Rybak_BA1.jpg

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

the_ashlands's picture
the_ashlands
1394 pencils

umm...your not going to find any work with stuff like that!

Tomasz Rybak's picture
Tomasz Rybak
29 pencils

what about my copywright? thief

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

look i did not change your name on the file

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

Tomasz Rybak's picture
Tomasz Rybak
29 pencils

what about my agreement?!delete it, please

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

done.

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

Tomasz Rybak's picture
Tomasz Rybak
29 pencils

thank you.

weighter's picture
weighter
744 pencils

play nice... neither are worth arguing over

adabortion's picture
adabortion
615 pencils

pixelbomb, do mean to say- you do admit to the fact that
all of the work you post in here aren't worth discussing?
That they are all client dictated ads? Then what is the point for your defending them?
That you did not post them for creative and constructive improvement?
Thank you, but I'm not up to it, however stupid my comments are (Tricky, r u there man?)!!!

TRICKY's picture
TRICKY
3930 pencils

keep trying man keep producing man
if you dont try you cant find out but you gotta dig real deep di gdi gdig if not look up to the skies and dream but dream dont just seee
keep dreamin until you see it once you see it then you have dugged your way up
sunset these cos these are just dust in your head of what you saw in your reality growing and absorbing all those years
i am sure you can do better these do not come from you it shows it s an edit of ideas and thoughts mixed with old memories

The man who stops advertising to save money is like the man who stops the clock to save time

adabortion's picture
adabortion
615 pencils

Tricky, are you on crack?

TRICKY's picture
TRICKY
3930 pencils

i smell jalousy here darling
if you ask nicely i might give you my dealer's phone number ;p

The man who stops advertising to save money is like the man who stops the clock to save time

walk-the-talk's picture
walk-the-talk
22 pencils

TRICKY, YOU ARE A PAIN IN THIS FORUM'S BUTT! You are using this forum as an excuse to have an argument with just about anybody. It should be the other way around. Argue with everybody to better ads in this forum. Thank you.

walk-the-talk's picture
walk-the-talk
22 pencils

TRICKY, YOU ARE A PAIN IN THIS FORUM'S BUTT! You are using this forum as an excuse to have an argument with just about anybody. It should be the other way around. Argue with everybody to better ads in this forum. Thank you.

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

next time just press post comment (once)

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

Mr. Cool Supreme's picture
Mr. Cool Supreme
142 pencils

It's pretty hard to believe that either of these ads ever ran for a real client. In fact, it's pretty hard to believe you work in advertising at all. Certainly your casual dismissal of the benefits of hard work fly in the face of what any heavily-awarded creative director will tell you. Simply put, doing great work is nothing but hard work. Perhaps, if you invested a little more time in your work, you'd earn a lot more praise on this site, and quite possibly, a lot more money.

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

Thanks for the comment doc. None of these ads ran in any media at all. It's a long story some of the people here remembers it. And I don't need praise from anybody.

p.s. i will take your advice since you're the doctor who knows it all.

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

TRICKY's picture
TRICKY
3930 pencils

hey pixel bomb everyone thinks that advertising is either their way or no way lolololololololol yup yup keep commenting

The man who stops advertising to save money is like the man who stops the clock to save time

drunk dave's picture
drunk dave
1066 pencils

Not when you're supposedly a professional and submitting ads this bad. Guy's useless. Maybe Pixel you could learn from your 'AD' and put a gun to your own head. Lotsa luv.

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

Hey you know what dave.. c'mon man you don't have to be that crude. put a gun to my head what kind of crap is that? c'mon be nice I have not done anything wrong to you.

Please sober up. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

That is why the world will never see peace. somebody needs to create a "piece that will give peace" but you can never please everyone. So keep on rockin on a free world.

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

pixelbomb1's picture
pixelbomb1
2555 pencils

That is why the world will never see peace. somebody needs to create a "piece that will give peace" but you can never please everyone. So keep on rockin on a free world.

Sincerely,
Arnold Santillan
714-206-2459

drunk dave's picture
drunk dave
1066 pencils

Gone through your comments, gone through your submissions. I stand by what I said. Now pull the trigger surf nazi.

the_ashlands's picture
the_ashlands
1394 pencils

wow...if i could only boot you from this site...

there is just no need to post comments like that. grow up.

drunk dave's picture
drunk dave
1066 pencils

Just found comments from both you and pixel where you rip into somebody for their poor english (Vibe) - nice, not sure what other languages you speak, but it's probably his third. Get yourself a gun too son. I'm sick of Pixels stupid arrogant comments, when all he shows is dog shit design with no conceptulising. And his ad above had the man with a gun to his head, I was just feeding off his so called work.

the_ashlands's picture
the_ashlands
1394 pencils

so you dont consider your recent comments to be stupid or arrogant then, huh? almost every comment you leave is laced with insults with no virtually no insight concerning the ad itself.

by the way...what comments are you referring to?

buy by bye's picture
buy by bye
544 pencils

where's the beef?
it is not here

ha ha ha.

..ok i am shutting up now

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